Are we safe in Gibraltar?

Would you feel safe knowing that an Al Qaeda terrorist was freely walking around the streets of Gib and working for a legitimately registered business here?

People may or may not have heard that three suspected Al Qaeda terrorists were arrested late Wed/early Thursday in southern Spain.

One was arrested at a flat in La Linea (the border town in Cadiz province across the frontier from Gibraltar) and the other two were on a bus in Almuradiel which is in the province of Cuidad Real, just across the border from the Andalucían province of Jaen.

I saw this on the BBC web site when I was in the midst of writing my blog post about not blogging much during August! Oh no. Such a missed opportunity.

Yesterday my partner casually came home and pointed out that one of them was employed as a construction site manager on one of the Gib firms. I couldn’t let this one go. Yes! A real live terrorist wandering and working amongst us!

He’s Turkish, as reported in the news, and has been on the firm for three years as contracts manager.

One of the Spanish lads, who had actually met the Turk, shivered on the spot. And then said ‘He won’t be getting any finiquito, will he?’ Finiquito is the Spanish for severance money. And as some of the staff are being laid off, it’s a topical issue right now.

According to more building site goss, the Turk was already in a Madrid jail at this point. It’s a fair drive from La Linea to Madrid so someone got moving fast.

I thought I would have a little look around and see what other info I could find. Yesterday the two on the bus were originally reported as being arrested in Valdepeñas which is actually north of Almuradiel (which looks like somewhere in the middle of nowhere). I had a look at Al Jazeera and discovered they said that all three had been arrested in the southern province of Cadiz.

Oh dear. Pedantic Roughseas kindly wrote to them and pointed out their error. I notice they have finally updated their piece (and added a few more inaccuracies) but I never received an acknowledgement. Rude gits. Shan’t be trusting them as an accurate source of info.

But how about the Spanish press? I hopped over to El Pais this morning which is one of my preferred Spanish national dailies. It does an English internet version but there isn’t as much info in inglés. The Spanish version has some nice background features.

It also cleared up a few mysteries. There were reports about the three living in San Roque and La Linea. The two are not the same. San Roque town is a few miles away and up on the hill – def not walking distance for a quick chat with your bomb-making pals.

Apparently though, while the Turk lived in La Linea, the other two lived slightly over the municipal border, so were technically in San Roque, and about two kilometres, ie 20 minutes walk away.

The area where the Turk lived, let’s call him T (for Turk), is one of the most deprived ones in La Linea, and there are a few of those given the huge unemployment in the town. There are about 10,000 people in the area and according to El Pais mostly ‘humble and working class’ (humilde y obrera). In recent years, there has been an influx of strangers into the area. Because of this, T, and his few friends, passed unnoticed in the barrio.

This barrio has social problems (as it would being poor) and often has police intervention, and there are disputes created by drug trafficking – you get the general idea.

According to neighours, T had been living in this rented flat for more than a year and a half, and the other two had been visiting him for around ten months. They mixed very little with anyone and were only occasionally seen having the odd coffee in a local bar. Neighbours added that T was married to a Moroccan woman and worked for a firm in Gibraltar.

At which point I realised that a) the construction site gossip was actually correct info and b) it doesn’t matter where you live in Spain, the neighbours know who you are, even if they don’t know what you are doing on the side. Comes of living under Franco I guess and spying and informing on your neighbours.

A few more facts. One of the three was reported as having trained with the Pakistani terrorist group, Lashkar and Tayiba, known in Urdu as the Army of the Pure. They were responsible for an attack in Mumbai in 2008 where 170 people died. They are independent of Al Qaeda but have links with them. As they would.

The police found a small amount of explosives in the flat in La Linea, and some containers that seemed to have been recently emptied. Hmm, wonder where that went? They also found drawings of radio-controlled lightweight aircraft. Microlights?

Like me, El Pais indulged in a bit of speculation. The official line is that they were suspected of planning an attack in Spain or elsewhere in Europe. Well, that’s pretty vague. How about Gib?

El Pais suggested that they were rather near to the American naval base at Rota up the coast in Cadiz province and even nearer to the British base in Gibraltar. Just as I said, especially when one of them was working here.

Although the Spanish newspaper names the firm T was working for, I shall be discrete for once. They were hardly to know they were employing a terrorist. It is fair to point out though that one of their clients is the Government of Gibraltar, and that they work on blocks of flats, and on occasion carry out work inside peoples’ flats.

Our government however, considers it not to be an issue. Govt press release:

ARRESTS IN SPAIN

Her Majesty’s Government of Gibraltar notes the news that a foreign national resident in Spain has been arrested in La Linea de la Concepcion in relation to alleged terrorist offences.

The Government would like to reassure the public that it has received no indication to suggest that the threat level to Gibraltar has changed in any way as a result of these events.

Terrorism is a cruel evil that, unfortunately, affects the whole world. This latest incident so close to Gibraltar reminds us of the need always to remain vigilant and report any concerns or suspicions to the Royal Gibraltar Police.

Hello Gib gov, so you don’t mind that this guy was working in Gib and on govt contracts? Dear me. I would not call working for a Gibraltar construction firm that has government contracts ‘close to Gibraltar’. I would call it right in the midst. Now go away and do your homework. What a crappy press release.

El Pais raises the issue of the small amount of explosives found in the flat, although the Spanish Minister of the Interior, Jorge Fernández, said that, mixed with shrapnel there was enough to blow up a bus.

According to anti-terrorist forces in Spain, T’s Moroccan wife had said by ‘phone shortly before the arrest, that she had cleaned the flat……..

A quick look at one of the other two, described varyingly as Chechen or ex-Russian. Investigators believe that one of them could have formed part of the special Russian forces, Spetsnaz. I wouldn’t be wanting to meet him in broad daylight let alone at night. When the two were arrested in Almuradiel, one of them used force to resist the Special Operations Group of the Spanish National Police, although he was obviously overcome.

It seems this has been a European-wide collaboration and the men had been under surveillance for some time. Well, obviously if they were tapping ‘phones.

Remember when we are talking Andalucía – and Gibraltar – that they were both Moorish for some hundreds of years. Gib was Moorish longer than it was Spanish. While Islamic fundamentalists may have a lot of aims – and targets, Andalucía never drops off the list.

My interpretation of history – and luckily I have studied this period – says that the Moors left Andalucía a fantastic legacy and Andalucía thrived under Moorish rule. You only have to look at the classic three cities of Córdoba, Granada, and Sevilla to see what they contributed to the Andalucían heritage. In the countryside the terracing where they cultivated almond, olive, and lemon trees is still in evidence. And of course it’s in the name, Al Andalus, and so many villages in Andalucía have Moorish derived names too.

That’s not to justify Al Qaeda or any terrorism. But they got a raw deal from Ferdinand and Isabella in 1492. Wars fought in the name of religion. When I did my degree, I was horrified how many wars were carried out for someone’s interpretation of a deity. Nothing changes.

In the meantime, from sunny Gibraltar, full of tourists, cross-border employees (ever more coming across to fiddle on the black I might add), and the odd suspected terrorist, this is the non-blogging Roughseas wishing you a happy weekend.

And hoping you don’t have too many terrorists working in your midst.

Links here should you choose to read more. The two Spanish El Pais ones are the best.

BBC
Please note this is another inaccurate article. Groan. I swear journalists aren’t trained these days. Their proof-reading is worse than mine. They have confused San Roque with La Linea. The explosives were found in La Linea. Just to be clear.

El Pais, in Spanish regarding the barrio in La Linea

El Pais, again in Spanish, with the more in-depth article

El Pais in English
More of a summary, and just as bad as the BBC, as they can’t tell the difference between San Roque and La Linea. Wonder if it was translated by someone English?

On the other hand the Torygraph has written an extremely good post.

And if you haven’t already read this post, you can read about when I got caught up in shooting at the frontier. Just to show that we aren’t such a sleepy little place after all.

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74 comments on “Are we safe in Gibraltar?

    • You are right of course. I hadn’t even thought of that. I was too busy thinking how close is close? Living in La Linea across the frontier may be close – but walking/driving/cycling across the frontier for work every day is rather more than close.

      The only decent information I have found was in the Spanish press (that and the on-the-street grapevine), the incompetent Gib Chron, nose to the ground as ever said the Turkish guy ‘may’ have been working in Gib. Come on! El Pais named the firm in Gib – how come the main Gib paper is so slow off the mark? Surely the govt press officers should be doing a bit of research too?

      Anyway, I am not reassured about anything.

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  1. Gib is really a small version of the big world – amazing.
    (This whole thing sounds like a movie script)
    With so little history being taught here, most don’t know anything about the Moors in Andalucía. What they left behind is part of what makes the area so interesting.
    News reports aren’t serious news anymore – something of a concern – you have to read widely to try to find what is going on – a little discouraging.(You did see where computers are actually constructing some news stories for some rather large newspapers these days?)
    Have a great weekend!

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    • It gets better. I have more info today on the whole saga from the Gib end. For another post methinks (so much for me taking a blogging break in August).

      I am disappointed that of the three English news sources I read that should be credible – BBC, Al Jazeera, and the Guardian – all contained errors. They all have people based in Spain, you don’t even need to be in Spain to pull out a Michelin map and check the geography.

      The advantage with the serious Spanish papers is that they are like british ones used to be. OK, they speculate, but so do British ones, but at least you get a decent in-depth story and they tell you when they are speculating.

      Thank you. You too.

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  2. Terrorism is sadly all around us. Having been mildly injured in two terrorist bomb blasts (Paris and Jakarta) I know only too well. I may even blog about them over the weekend. I’d guess the military bases either at Rota or Gib would be the most likely targets for those chaps they arrested.

    I read the link to your border incident blog from some years ago, and was amused by your bus comment. Did you know that the easiest way for a terrorist to enter the UK is to buy two tickets on Eurostar from Paris or Brussels, one to Lille and the other to London. UK customs/immigration checks are done before the train reaches Lille, so they show their Lille ticket and UK officials are not allowed to question them. They then don’t get off at Lille. It may have changed now, but there was only ever a ticket check after the Lille stop, when I was using Eurostar.
    Blu

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    • Really sorry to hear about that, although I suppose being mildly injured is a least worst scenario, I would have though, nevertheless, there would have been a tiny bit of stress and trauma to go with it. Look forward to the read if you feel like writing it up.

      The microlight spin to the story is an interesting one though… speculation on site was flying one to the olympics which seemed a bit far-fetched. The two arrested in provincia de Ciudad Real were on the way to Irún (border with France) so goodness knows whether they were just getting out or planning the next stage?

      That’s interesting. Given the funding for terrorist organisations a couple of train tickets to get into the UK is hardly huge expenditure. I didn’t like Eurostar when I used it briefly. And it wasn’t under the tunnel either. Just on the French side.

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    • And from where do they acquire equipment? Possibly from a construction site?
      More to this than meets the eye or has been reported.
      Do terrorists – or alleged terrorists – even buy explosives? Not available in Mercadona so figured it just arrives in a parcel. From somewhere.

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          • Hydrogen peroxide, a chemical used quite legally by people wanting to turn their hair blond, is a common constituent of explosives. Some chemist sold 100 bottles to someone who just walked into their shop, and didn’t even inform the police afterwards. Sometimes we are our own worst enemies.

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          • Hydrogen peroxide is in my medical cabinet, its perfect for getting embeded thorns etc out of dogs paws, its also a good mouthwash/gargle, diluted obviously.
            I’m sure I’ve read somewhere, that something easily purchased for gardening, also goes into the explosives that are made.

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          • I was a bit surprised when I looked it up how versatile it is. I could probably do with some right now as I have a finger going yellow :( due to a garden incident. Not sure whether it was a cactus spike or a hidden bee that attacked me. But it is hurting, yellow and swollen. Hopefully it won’t drop off.

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          • Sounds like youve got something in there if it’s yellow and swollen.
            If you are actually allowed to buy any in Gib, due to the recent activities, it is well worth it.
            I’ve used it several times on thorns etc. on myself and S&J, the ones deeply embedded that can’t be reached with tweezers, put a few drops of hydrogen peroxide on and it just bubbles it out. great for getting dirt out of wounds too.

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  3. My goodness! I’m going straight to you for my news from now on, Rough Seas. I, for one, appreciate your pedantic self (and my own error has been duly noted and corrected, thank you). We need more of your kind in this world, and certainly more of your kind employed in the news agencies.

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    • Lol!! It won’t be very extensive though. Invariably about Europe and my particular parts of it. You’re welcome re the castle. We spent some time on holidays on the west coast so we’d driven past that loads, and also spent time in Skye – and I couldn’t reconcile the two! We all get things wrong for whatever reason, and I would appreciate anyone pointing out an error, or even if something was factually disputed, so that I can point that out too. I guess it is down to the extremely good training I got from a couple of senior reporters who were sticklers for accuracy. And quite right too I say.

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      • Understood. I want to point out bloggers’ grammar and punctuation errors all the time, but that would become tedious and way too time consuming! (Plus, I doubt that it would be appreciated.) I spend tons of time fact checking my own posts (except for that one!), and it is refreshing to run across someone else who takes time to do that. What happened to your holiday, by the way, RoughSeas? Still on?

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        • I did actually change this post following Bumba’s comment. I am busy slagging off inaccurate journalists and promptly convicted three men before trial! I could argue that half of europe’s anti-terrorist forces have been looking for them, but still.

          Although how would one describe Hussein, Gadaffi, and Osama bin Laden? Suspected despots and mass murderers?

          It’s so easy to notice someone else’s errors/literals and miss your own :( i check mine rigorously before hitting publish and can guarantee I will always need to change something. I change spelling errors in comments because people often ask me to, so it’s as easy to change them when I spot them. Very autocratic of me.

          The holiday is complicated. It changes every day. Plan is, less blog posts this month. I’m doing well so far, I would normally have written one today (oh wait, I did on Clouds!).

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  4. It’s so damn alarming when we find out (later rather than earlier)there are terrorists, crazed ones living right next door. As is the case of the man who went on a rampage in the theater here in the states.. No one had a clue.. Fortunately in this case, the accused were arrested before any lives were lost..

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    • Yes, it is alarming/frightening/disturbing – all of those. What’s nagging me is that there are other issues around this story, and I’m not sure I’m going to write them up. The theatre story in America was terrible. Who’s to think a relaxing chill with a few hours of entertainment is going to turn into something – well, out of a film?

      We’ll see what happens here in Gib and Spain. I’m certainly wondering how many other terrorists/potential terrorists are living and working in both countries :(

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  5. And you were hoping for a quiet holiday break, Rough Seas. :-) I imagine the suburban neighbours of the London bombers had very similar reactions when the news broke. We find it hard to realise that the quiet guy doing an ordinary job could be harbouring such evil intentions.

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    • Sadly a sign of our times that I don’t find it hard to realise at all, but I do find it very frightening. When the majority of people are trying to live their lives, survive, occasionally enjoy themselves, the thought that someone wants to indiscriminately kill as many people as possible for a religious war is not nice. At all. It’s bad reading about it whenever and wherever it happens (London, Madrid) but as you say about the neighbours in London, when it comes so close to home it is most unnerving and actually stressful.

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  6. But why would you feel safe in Gib, all the sailors have gone!! Gib has, of course had previous brushes with terrorists. I recall the IRA getting upset by ‘British’ intervention in their plan to blow something up. Of course, you don’t necessarily need husge ammounts of explosive, you don’t even need to be there at the moment. The bombing in Brighton proved that a bomb could be left for months, ticking away until the appointed hour.

    For those who have an argument with the Brits, Gib would make a reasonable target I would have thought. Renowned throughout the world as Brtitsh and, I would imagine, easier to get to than London.

    Perhaps the Gib Chron could be persuaded to employ a more careful editor, now who could that be …

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    • Yes, they have rather abandoned us sadly. After all, you know my preference for those nice understated dark blue uniforms. Yes, who could forget either a) the IRA in Gib or b) Brighton. And they were years ago.

      That’s helpfully reassuring. Although not quite the same view as our Chief Minister seems to have, telling us all that there is no increased risk.

      My gripe about the journalism is that when the name of the firm has been slapped all over Spanish television, their websites, and now even the Torygraph, I think it a little coy of the main Gib paper to say that the man concerned ‘may have been working in Gib.’ No, he has been working here for three years as contracts manager, and prior to the reappearance of the boss’s son (after an extended holiday for six years I understand) he was actually number 2 on the firm. Gib is a small place. If I can find that out, I don’t see why the Chron can’t.

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      • Ahh but the Chron don’t want to or have been told to supress or obfuscate (Is that a word?) for the good of the population to avoid panic, or is that just good old censorship. Whatever, it makes no sense as you say.

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        • Well that would be a pointless exercise given that most of the population here watch Spanish TV, ie speak and understand Spanish even if they don’t read and write it. I think the word is incompetence myself. Partner was talking to a neighbour today who said he never knew what to believe in it :( Bad news when you have to read Spanish press to find out what is going on in Gib!

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          • Oh come on, you have to get with the colonial mind set. Why would people resident in Gib pay any attention to the unreliable Spanish, they tried to invade and we gave them a jolly good spanking. There dominions tried to take the Falklands, similar fate. Of course there is the belief they are all womanising waiters or incompetent ‘Manuel’ figures. No no no, much better to rely on the safe trusted impartial Gib press inbued with the finest traditions of the British free press.

            Of course us mere mortals, ie not in power, know what a load of old cobblers that is. It seems though that once a person runs for office the rational thinking brain is replaced by the early Victorian brain as standard issue!

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          • Yes, but Gibbos are Gibbos and don’t have a colonial mindset. I might point out that the Gib Chron has been around since 1801 so is one of the oldest English language newspapers still in print. And still reads like 1801 except less detailed and accurate. I quite like Spanish newspapers. They do great promotional stuff too, or used to. Sensible things like books, pashminas, earrings!

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          • Really, you can keep the pashminas, but books and earrings that’s a different story!

            Gibbos may be Gibbos but it is the mindset of mein fuhrer that I was referring to. We all know that ‘We The People’ are actually, for the most part, sensible, intelligent and thoughtful (footballers excluded).

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          • The pashminas are nice and not animal based. Acrylic, so damage the environment differently :( Got bored with the earrings. I was going through a gaudy phase. The books were brilliant. Spanish classics for a euro each. Brilliant value. I’ve only read one. Must write a review, as it was really clever.

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  7. I find it very worrying, that whenever anything like this comes to light, how the terrorists involved have integrated into the lives of everyday folk for months previous.
    There is no way at all, when a new neighbour moves in we are ever likely to find out any misdoings they may be involved in.

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  8. Feeling remarkably unjust ‘liking’ this again – but I know you know what I mean. It is so much more comfortable to view terrorism as ‘them against them’ – when you throw an ‘us’ into it, things change. Fast. I hope that the press releases and inaccuracies only mean that the right people are alarmed behind closed doors and the right policies are in place for dealing with this mess in an appropriate manner – and that a few ‘slip-ups’ are allowed for the purpose of cloaking the real extent of gov’t intervention… Not a comfy place to be, feeling that your neighbors are potential terrorists. Shades of espionage and Cold War and the Bourne movies…Yikes!

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    • Yes, perhaps like should be substituted with ‘good post’ ?

      I think dearth of information means alarm behind closed doors. I think inaccurate journalism means pressure on people to get stories out without giving them time to check the facts.

      But in espionage, Cold War and Bourne, it rarely impacted on civilians. It was almost like a parallel world. Still Gibraltar is not new to espionage…..

      https://roughseasinthemed.wordpress.com/2012/04/01/conspiracy-theory/

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      • Wow – so NOT in Canadian history books. History is a live and well, breathing among us – what will they write about your ‘now’, when it is ‘later’? I sincerely hope that we will all have a ‘later’…

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        • It wasn’t something I had heard of either. It was only because the memorial was part of the multi geocache that it came to my attention. I read the plaque and thought why was a Polish prime minister killed off Gibraltar – so started on the research….. Luckily it was well documented on the internet. It was probably one of my longest posts, (and I left loads out!) but it was a complex tale. Like any conspiracy theory/spy tale/political chicanery.

          So do I!

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  9. Great Post :-)
    And oh yes we do have terrorists working in our midst! My grand niece narrowly escaped being at the site of a blast at a Pune (near Mumbai) bus stand last week, just because her mother decided to pick her up from college that evening. I understand these people have been wronged. But in most cases.at least here in the subcontinent, I think terrorism is more about political intrigue and destabilisation than righting historical wrongs. To the extent of wondering if some of these are carried out by “us” just to blame “them”!

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    • Thanks. Gosh, narrow escape and hope they’ve recovered from the ‘What if’ shock syndrome.

      I think there are two distinct issues. One, as you point out historical perceived wrongs. And the circle, naturally is endless, unless people choose to let it go.

      But two, and I think the most important, is or are, the current political actions and interventions by western ie American-led powers in other countries in a search for oil. While ever Israel is funded in its war against Palestine, and western forces continue to invade middle eastern countries for various spurious reasons, then of course the Islamic world will retaliate as best it can. I do not like what goes on in many of those countries, but I also don’t like what goes in in my own country where I was born. I totally disagree with the idea of marching into someone else’s country saying ‘I know better’ (says a Brit to an Indian!).

      Your comment about destabilisation is very similar to a post written by another blogger (bluonthemove) who wrote about being caught up in an bomb in Indonesia in the 80s.

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  10. I’ve just seen this from Sky News, which puts an interesting perspective on the story:

    A plot to bomb Gibraltar’s main shopping centre during the Olympics has been foiled, according to reports in the Spanish media.

    The plot involved three suspected al Qaeda terrorists, the reports said.

    Sky sources say the reports are credible and that British intelligence was involved in monitoring the suspects although that role was described as “minimal”.

    The target in the British territory was said by El Pais newspaper to be the main shopping centre.

    Three suspects are in custody. When police raided the home of one, Cengiz Yalcin, a Turk, near the border with Gibraltar, they found a video which was used in evidence against him.

    A “significant” haul of explosives were also found as well as the parts for three paragliding machines.

    The video is said to show him piloting a large remote-controlled plane. The aircraft drops two packages from the air to the ground at which point “Yalcin celebrated his achievement”, said El Pais.

    The suspicion is the plan was to drop explosives on the shopping centre.

    I read a site called Aggbot.com which is a news aggregation service, sometimes it is useful to have different perspectives on a single news story shown side by side.

    Blu

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    • Sometimes having the odd bit of Spanish helps :) That’s the same story I read in El Pais a couple of days ago…. I emailed a translation to a friend, but didn’t post on here although did do the Spanish linky. I’m on blog holiday you know … ;)

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  11. This is an incredible post and report. Around a decade ago the Australia Govt advised us “Be alert, but not alarmed”, and it’s a slogan that’s been flogged by every advertising agency, media head line, and [over] used for many jokes since. The G.O. and I even went to a [one-man + one-stuffed-dog] play of the same theme. But it was effective at the time, as apparently from Dec 2002 to June 2003 19,400 people called the Federal Government’s terrorism hotline and “more than half of the calls provided information about terrorist activities, and were assigned to the “AFP and/or ASIO”.”, and it is ongoing but somewhat out of fashion now. As with everything, awareness is key (and you do more than your bit for that). I think many of us just come & go, living our lives innocently and expect the same of everyone else. We stopped being happy about the post 9-11 security measures and started being inconvenienced/bored by them. The Gib situation disproves any illusions that a continuing threat is non-existent. Thank goodness they were stopped.

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    • One of the defining characteristics of Gib is that it is a very tolerant community. A Christian Church, a Jewish synagogue and a mosque within a stone’s throw of each other for example. The so-called big three have been here and lived together for ages.

      It’s also been a lawless community. I’ve lost count of the number of people we know (not just second hand info) who have made their money from smuggling, either tobacco and/or drugs.

      And for that reason, people tend to turn a blind eye to anything that looks untoward.

      I think your phrase about coming and going and living our lives sums it up so well. I wish.

      There were anti-terrorist measures/restrictions/monitoring activity in the UK well before 9/11. One of the things that racked me off about the place. Criminals of any type are not stupid (or else how would they evade the law and profit for so long?) and all that petty measures achieve is to restrict my freedom. It’s rarely in the general interest at all. A bit like tax evaders in Gib get away with millions, and my partner is hassled for not making enough money. Farcical.

      Sadly what all this will achieve is increased racism. Xenophobia. Fear and hatred of Muslims, many of whom, like us just want to come and go. It is a strange world we live in, where people can merrily up sticks and move country (me included), gain employment ahead of local people, use false papers, and plan to blow the shit out of people.

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  12. @Roughseasinthemed – Your post has really got the wheels of my brain turning.
    1) It is scary that there were cases that had already been cleared out.
    2) I cannot believe that the news did not have the facts straight and you corrected them. They should have sent you a thank you e-mail for reporting the errors.
    3) I wonder if the American CIA or FBI assisted with the operation.
    4) It is interesting how you knew every location and did not accept the news at their word and did your own report.
    5) Absolutely am astonished that one of the terrorist was working for a construction company that had government contracts. That means the person could have had access to government information of some sort and reported it back to Al Queda.

    I hope that someone is able to get some intelligence out of the terrorists.

    Perhaps they should send the terrorists to an American Army base and allow a Marine to get some information. An American Marine can get intelligence out of anyone.

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    • Thanks for your thoughts. A couple of replies.

      i think increasingly it is becoming more important to double check news stories. The geographical error was glaring. It was like saying men were arrested in the southern state of Texas in Houston and Miami. See?

      The intelligence apparently came from Britain and France.

      The computers have been impounded so will be interesting to note if anything results from that.

      Tbh I wouldn’t want to come up against an American marine, British marine/SAS, French foreign legionnaire, Spanish Guardia Civil or basically any tough military serving member. I am sure they could all be extremely persuasive.

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  13. @Roughseasinthemed – I am glad you wrote this post with the correct information on this story. Remember the trip I had told you about before? It is happening at the end of next week, and it has me a bit stressed, as you can tell in my latest writings. The specific city is the most dangerous city in the country.

    -Stressed Liz

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    • There is an update, but as I am on blogging holiday, I am leaving it for a while.

      Did you check out the FCO link I sent? That’s really the best I can advise given I am a few thousand klicks away, but it is always a good start.

      I’ve got my fingers crossed for him, and the dog is crossing all four paws. Wishing a safe trip and a happy return home.

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