Falklands and Twelfth Night

Cristina Kirchner has once again repeated Argentina’s erroneous claim to the Falkland Islands.

Really. What is it with Argentina and Spain that they want to claim territory that quite frankly is not theirs?

Unless the forthcoming Falkland Islands referendum proves otherwise, it seems to me that Falkland Islanders are quite happy being British. As are Gibraltarians.

So that should be the end of the story.

Or maybe Britain should say that it wants to recolonise America, Australia, Canada, India, Pakistan, Mauritius, Ceylon, South Africa, New Zealand, half of France, Belize, British East Indies, Malaysia etc etc

In cabinet papers released at the end of 2012, more information has been revealed about the Falklands War.

I do think this silly insistence on calling it a conflict is ridiculous. When one country invades another, people are killed, and a lot of armed forces are deployed, that strikes me as a war. Just because war hasn’t been ‘declared’ doesn’t alter the facts.

Unsurprisingly, our local newspaper, the Gib Chron, includes news from three parts of the world. Gibraltar, the UK, and the Falklands – because of the similarity in our status, ie British overseas territories claimed by a Spanish-speaking country. Because you know, we are nearer to them than we are to the UK.

There is a great comment in this Yahoo answers page about territorial integrity which is the phrase used by aggressive countries who want to expand – and colonise? invade? take over? – the nearest possible place.

 http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006052303523

The main items in the Chron were about :

1) Supply of arms from various countries to both sides
2) Reagan’s plea to Thatcher to hand over the Falklands to ‘international peacekeepers’ (my quote marks as I have no high opinion of peacekeeping)
3) Thatcher’s fear that Spain would invade Gibraltar

My personal memories of the Falklands War are limited. Although I was working in journalism at the time, our stories were limited to the ‘human interest’ ones. Who was going to sail to the Falklands, and what their families were feeling. Invariably pride that they were serving their country and hope that they would return safely.

I also remember the Gotcha headline. This, for anyone who doesn’t know, was published by The Sun newspaper when the Argentinian ship, the Belgrano, was sunk by British forces.

The sinking was controversial, apart from the huge loss of lives, because the Belgrano was outside the 200 mile exclusion zone (sounds a bit like fishing limits) and allegedly sailing away from the Falklands.

However, reading around, it seems that the British had changed their military rules to ‘attack anything that is a potential threat.’ And, the captain of the Belgrano later said that he was to attack anything that came within firing range. Seems the Belgrano was also preparing to return to the zone for a rendezvous, and not going home at all. A report at the time about the true destination of the Belgrano wasn’t made public by the British government as Thatcher didn’t want to compromise British intelligence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_General_Belgrano

Kirchner, of course, referred to it as a war crime last year. I ask you. Apparently the Argentinian government was considering taking the UK to the International Court of Justice. I mean that’s a bit rich isn’t it? Invade somewhere and complain when your ship gets sunk?

On the other hand, the Argentinian navy has always regarded the sinking as a legitimate act of war. (Even though we weren’t at war of course).

At least the military was honest about what was going on, even if politicians weren’t – and still aren’t.

I confess to not being pro the war at the time. I saw it as nothing more than Thatcher being desperate to be re-elected, and willing to risk military lives. Now I’m living in Gibraltar with continual claims from Spain to repossess Gibraltar, I have a somewhat different view.

So the release of the three documents I mentioned all look at very different aspects of the war.

1) Apparently Libya, ie Gaddafi, was planning to supply arms to Argentina. I read elsewhere that this was a route used by Russia, to save them getting directly involved.

2) Argentina was using a Brasilian airport as a staging post to receive weapons and then ship them into Argentina. And Reagan suggested sending a joint US/Brasilian peace-keeping mission to the Falklands? Seems not only America, but Brasil (allegedly in favour of the British) were both sitting on the fence, or jumping on and off as convenient.

But what about the American involvement in the war? Again, my memories of that, are that America didn’t help, and was initially sticky about letting ‘planes refuel at the American base on Ascension Island (which just happens to be British, I might add). Reading around however, it seems that America did provide significant help in terms of weapons and political support in the end too.

It’s interesting what a distorted view we have of international events. I didn’t realise how split the Reagan government was regarding the issue, with Secretary of State Alexander Haig, and UN Ambassador Jeanne Kirkpatrick both in favour of a settlement on the side of Argentina. Defence Secretary Caspar Weinberger, however, leaned towards Britain.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303816504577313852502105454.html

And yet, even when the British were entering Port Stanley, Reagan asked Thatcher to hand over the Falklands to avoid humiliation for the Argentinians. Uh?

However:

Thatcher was having none of it. The United Kingdom, she said, could not contemplate a ceasefire without Argentinian withdrawal.

According to the official No 10 note, she told him: “Britain had not lost precious lives in battle and sent an enormous task force to hand over the Queen’s islands to a contact group.

“As Britain had had to go into the islands alone, with no outside help, she could not now let the invader gain from his aggression. The prime minister asked the president to put himself in her position.

“She had lost valuable British ships and invaluable British lives. She was sure that the president would act in the same way if Alaska had been similarly threatened.”

Got to say, Good one there, Maggie.

And the British ambassador in Washington at the time, Sir Nicholas Henderson, had this to say:

“For a long time Britain has been identified with decline in the American press and in the mind’s eye of many people here – a deterioration not just in industrial output but in national will, in the essential dash and doggedness that were regarded by Americans as a hallmark of the British character,” he wrote.

“Well, the Falklands have corrected that.”

3) Perhaps the most interesting document from my perspective is the concept of Spain invading Gibraltar as a result of the Falklands war.

Margaret Thatcher feared a Spanish military assault on Gibraltar in the wake of the 1982 Argentine invasion of the Falkland Islands, previously secret papers have revealed.

Three days after Argentina’s ruling military junta seized the British dependency in the South Atlantic; the Prime Minister Mrs Thatcher called for an “urgent assessment” of Britain’s ability to defend Gibraltar, prompted in part by the “jubilant reaction” to the invasion in the Spanish press.

and

“Are we READY should such an invasion occur?”

In secret evidence to the Franks inquiry into the Falklands crisis in October 1982, which has been declassified today, Mrs Thatcher admitted that the threat to Gibraltar had left her living “on a knife edge”.

And at the same time, negotiations were ongoing to lift the border closure imposed by Spain.

Despite a delay, caused by the Falklands crisis, the land border with Spain was opened to pedestrians on 15 December, 1982. 

After Franco died November 20 1975 Spain worked towards democratic government and Britain tried to encourage the opening of the border by offering discussions on Gibraltar issues, including allowing sovereignty to be raised, through the Lisbon Agreement in 1980. When Spain joined NATO in 1981 it aspired to have use of military facilities on the Rock, but the 1982 Argentinean invasion of the Falklands saw negotiations suspended.

Can’t say I’m too happy about the raising of the sovereignty issue. Why defend the Falklands and allow sovereignty discussions about Gib? Politics, politics.

Browsing around, I also found out about Operation Algeciras. An Argentinian plot to blow up a Royal Navy ship in Gibraltar, the theory being that if the UK was having problems in Europe they wouldn’t send so many ships down to the Falklands. Simple enough operation. Divers leave Algeciras, attach mines to ship in Gib and swim back before detonation.

Bahia de Algeciras
Bahia de Algeciras

The operation failed, fortunately, and the Argentinian agents were arrested by Spanish police, and discretely flown back to Argentina without charges or trial to avoid any international repercussions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Algeciras

And:

An interesting Falklands site

But onto a totally different topic. Gibraltar celebrates Three Kings with a parade – cabalgata – on the evening of 5 January.

This is clearly a Spanish custom, which is ironic, as the UK certainly never did anything like that in the 40 years I lived there.

Traditionally in Spain, children would get their gifts on the eve of Three Kings, rather than Christmas Eve. Now of course, they get presents on both nights. We have a similar parade in my Spanish pueblo, where they use real horses, but in Gib the animals are fake and mounted on floats. Having said that, it is a spectacular parade. It starts in Casemates, and finishes a couple of minutes away from my house at the southern end of Main Street, giving me chance to go back and take extra pix when the floats grind to a halt.

This float was a well-deserved first prize winner with a Brasilian theme and lots of samba music. What a great effort.

Stunning bird
Stunning bird

My Christmas cards (all nine of them) are now down, and the festive season is truly over. But it’s nice to mark the culmination with a parade, with lots of happy people and a good-natured atmosphere. So more pix on the slideshow.

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48 comments on “Falklands and Twelfth Night

    • Thanks. Took a while to write as the Falklands is actually quite complex. And every year some new documents are released the picture changes.

      Hmm, I see no difference between Argentina and Spain, both of whom bleat about British territory that they consider to be theirs despite being British for hundreds of years. And interestingly after the Falklands, Argentina had a rather prosperous period when the military junta was got rid of.

      Look forward to your post.

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    • Thanks Sunny. I guess at the time, I was trying to be non-imperialist, non-colonialist, whatever you want to call it. But that totally ignores the wishes of the people on the ground. And now, because I live in an overseas territory where referendums have more than 99% of people wishing to remain British, that’s a sobering reminder that people should mean more than politics.

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  1. I still don’t understand all of the ins and outs – my brain only knows that there is much more going on than the media or our politicians see fit to let us in on – it makes one wonder what REALLY went on in the world that our history books have left out? It certainly depends upon your personal slant, and the morality of the day and age in which said slant takes place. The thought of all the machinations and intrigues over the ages positively makes my head spin!

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  2. I followed the Falklands war rather attentively … on BBC World [shortwave radio]. I remember very well when Belgrano was sunk … then HMS Sheffield was sunk by the Argentinians.
    HMS Intrepid had made a visit to my home town in Sweden, just about one week before the war broke out so she sailed pretty much straight there [she wasn’t damaged at all].

    A geographical move can certainly change your point of view … big time :)

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    • I don’t think we really got to know much about it at the time. But I do think the analysis so many years later is interesting. I would like to get my hands on lots of those documents!

      It’s not just the move, old age plays a part in it too ;)

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        • It’s probably second after being ‘on-the-ground’. I had a colleague who was pretty left-wing/liberal and not into British colonialism. He didn’t think we should be in Northern Ireland. Then he went to work there it totally opened his eyes and he changed his mind.

          The concept of self-determination by the population of the country * should * always be paramount. I will be watching the Falklands referendum with great interest.

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    • I think the concept of marking the end of the festive season is a good one. And it is something for children (and everyone else) to look forward to after Christmas, which can often be an anti-climax with everything done in 24 hours. Spain has an even longer festive season as they have a couple of national holidays on 6 and 8 Dec, so they get a month’s worth of jollifications!

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  3. I had meant to comment yesterday but lost myself in a whole series of memories of the Falklands invasion period.

    Amazing how America can so easily forget Woodrow Wilson’s principle of self determination for countries when it suits what they see as their global interests…and my recollection was of an America sitting on its hands to see which way things would jump…..as they did in two world wars.

    It always amazes me how British governments maintain this fiction of a special relationship…can’t use nuclear weapons without big brother’s say so; send troops into areas where Britain has no interests whatsoever to protect…..so who benefits from it? Is it really just to give ex British prime ministers a big income on speaking tours?

    I detested Thatcher on her domestic policy, but she did the right thing about the Falklands…and as for Cameron saying he would take action again…may one ask with what?

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    • Helen, that is one of the most astute comments I have ever received on my blogs.

      Personal, but not dissimilar to mine, and also borne out by later historical documents.

      Fictional special relationship? But there was that lovely Marshall Plan was there not? Wasn’t that super? – for America.

      Worst thing Britain ever did.

      I’m not sure we needed American help for the Falklands either. But maybe I just have a backs to the wall mentality. WW1 and 2 still leave a sour taste in the mouth. I have written enough posts about both of them and how Americans endlessly bleat about their loss of lives in war when they still haven’t lost as many people as they killed in Vietnam. New country. Can’t run a health care system, issue food stamps, and invade half the world. More invasions by American than any other country? Peacekeepers? Laughing. Well, if it wasn’t serious.

      Totally agree about Thatcher on domestic policy. Appalling. Would have seen people starving on the streets and would have decimated health. Internationally? Pretty good. How odd eh? Yet, to take the international stance, she needed to be prime minister. A Sec of State for foreign policy couldn’t have had the clout. She did well there. Guess she was just a little old colonialist/empirist. Could do with her to tell Kirchner and Rajoy what to do right now though!

      Cameron? He won’t even get a speaking tour.

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  4. That is an eye opener on the Falklands, you’ve certainly done some research there.
    All I’d heard and read before was local coverage at the time, we were on holiday in France, and I remember T looking for a decent English paper for current news.

    Your pics from the twelfth night celebrations are great, a wonderful insight to something that I’ve never heard of before.

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    • Ha! Your friendly blogger points out unheard of news.

      Ok, so I did spend a bit of time reading around the Falklands following a couple of stories I read in Gib Chron. I think our UK news was so biased at the time. As is most news. You can’t have been on holiday all the time it was on! It did go on for a few weeks. Maybe you were time rich? ;)

      I do think it is an incredibly important event in world history. I read something about it being the most significant war since WW2, given the amazing effort the British military had to make to get troops down to the other end of the world, and totally unprepared for it.

      As Helen said above, Thatcher’s domestic policies were appalling, maybe she should have let someone else run the Uk, because she clearly had bigger things in mind! Seriously, can’t fault her international stance.

      Twelfth night here is lovely :)

      PS, forgot, click on harry above and he has a post about Kirchner and the Falklands as well which he posted not long after mine. The strange and small world of the internet.

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      • The war ended while we were in France, but no, we weren’t there for the full duration.
        T has just said the campsite courier cycled past the tents giving all the Brits the news.
        Yes it was an amazing feat when you look at the facts.

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        • That’s a bit like me being in Aus when the miners’ strike ended!
          You were still time rich though, as I was grafting away in the newspaper office ;)
          It was an incredible achievement. One post I read was about commandeering cross channel ferries used to 20 mile trips to travel 8000 miles. I’d like to think we should put more effort into that sort of capability than faffing around sucking up to America and hanging off their bootstrings.

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    • I read the stories from the Cabinet papers, and then when Kirchner started bleating again, it tied in nicely. The interesting aspect about Gib news is that it always looks at different aspects to the UK, so I tend to often read news that other people don’t.

      Have to say when I read ‘Newfoundland’ my first thought is dogs. I wonder how many other dog owners think that? Most of my Canadian readers are from the west coast ie Vancouver and BC so interesting to have an eastern seaboard comment, thanks.

      I know little about Canadian independence except it would appear to have been painless (as much as these things are) and that Britain appears to continue to have good relations with you.

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      • You are not alone with the Newfoundland dog thing. Of course, the other half of our province’s name–Labrador–is the same :>)

        You are also correct about Canadian Independence–it was quite orderly and civilized (much like the people we are). Newfoundland-Labrador’s entry to Canada was a bit more controversial, though; a topic that is still debated among local historians. Though we are proud Canadians we are Newfoundlanders and Labradorians first :>)

        I would also like to say that we have a long and varied history here but…you are (I think) on Gibraltar and, well…you can likely one-up anyone :>)

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        • Ha! My first rescue dog was a Labrador pup :) Pesky animal would always sniff out water and disappear to find it :D

          Yes, I think Canadians are pretty cool, apart from the French speaking issues and spats. I think the most I knew about Canadian history was when Trudeau was in power.

          I can understand your Newf/Lab point. Another friend and I come from Yorkshire. We are Yorkshire first. My partner comes from Wales. No difference between any of us.

          Yes, I’m mostly on Gib apart from when I’m in Spain. Gib has a long history:

          http://everypicturetellsone.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/gibraltar-cradle-of-history/

          Beat that? :D

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          • Can’t even come close! Frankly I’m not surprised–Gibraltar is one of those places that would have been noticed–and revered–from the earliest times.
            NL has always been sparsely populated. Waves of people came…and went. The earliest we have on record are the Paleo-Eskimos from about 6000 years ago. There’s some info here on some of the other waves
            http://www.heritage.nf.ca/aboriginal/prehist.html
            The fact of life for those of us who live here is that we we are a part of this place–and we love it–but we know that it will still be here long after we are gone.

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          • OK–just one more thing. Col. Chris Hadfield is currently on the ISS and has been tweeting since his arrival. Here’s a picture of my home taken last night by him

            If you are on twitter you might consider following him–he tweets pics from all around the world and is quite interesting. For example Will Shatner (Capt Kirk from the original Star Trek) tweeted to ask him if he was really tweeting from space and he replied…

            Col. Hadfield’s brother lives here; so I guess he feels an attachment. Me…I think he got salt water in his veins from his last visit here.

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  5. Of course the US position on international relations is always tricky for them given their ethnic heritage and ancestry which gave them exactly the same issues to deal with in the two world wars – German is the largest ancestry group in the USA.
    On the issue of the Falklands the recent story of naming a part of the Antarctic after the Queen amused me. It seems we have done this sort of thing before – in 1897 on the island of Gozo when we renamed the capital (Rabat) Victoria to commemorate the Diamond Jubilee! Diehard locals still think that was a bit arrogant and continue to call it Rabat!

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    • You always sound sympathetic towards the US when this topic comes up. They’ve also got plenty of muslims but that doesn’t stop them invading oil-rich Arabic countries. They’ve probably got plenty of Russian emigrées but that hasn’t tied their hands regarding Russian foreign policy. Tricky = who will win and what is in my best interests? I can understand that, but so-called ‘special relationships’ is just nonsense, and I don’t subscribe to the ethnic mix theory either.

      I haven’t heard the Antarctica story, or the Gozo one, but one of the reasons for Britain supporting the Falklands is its proximity to Antarctica, oil, fishing etc. One of our mates goes down there for work and they need to sail there in the summer, and obviously they need to sail from somewhere. Hello Falklands, a very useful departure point to reach British Antarctica.

      I’ll have to look up the story now :)

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      • Well, I am sort of US sympathetic, I think we need to recognise that their foreign policy and national interests will not always coincide with ours. I’m sure we have let allies down in the past! It is too easy to adopt a patriotic/nationalist point of view.

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        • Not arguing that our interests won’t coincide. What gets up my nose is the notion that we are best friends, which really means we do what they want and they don’t help us unless it suits. Internationally we’ve had no reason to follow them into all their crazy wars. We don’t have the money, we don’t have the people, and we shouldn’t be there.

          One article I read about the Falklands said that our biggest allies were the French (in spite of flogging Exocet). I think there is a difference between changeable allies and self-interest – yes, no doubt we have let people down, double dealt and all the rest, like everyone else does – and the notion of a binding so-called special relationship, that in reality means we act like the 51st state. Or 52nd if you put Puerto Rico before us.

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    • Thanks CBC. It’s a snapshot of some items I read at the end of the year, with relevance to Gibraltar obviously.

      I had no idea either, so the more that is disclosed the more interesting it all becomes from a historical perspective. None of which alters the fact that Argentinian and British military were killed. Unnecessarily. Or maybe not. At least the British deaths resulted in preserving the status quo and defending the people of the Falklands.

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  6. Thought I heard the Falklands was heating up again (sometimes hard to get real new with all the important celebs expecting, which sports figure was in jail and what passes for news here)
    I never understood the last time why people thought the Falklands should go to Argentina – it should be up to those who live there – common sense. It’s always interesting to get info releases to give more insight to what was going on. Never knew there was a threat to Gib at that time.
    People here are not always happy with US foreign policies. My dad and others were very unhappy with FDR his decisions at the end of WW II. I and others were not happy with Vietnam at the time. Not happy the current Pres. and his administration seems determined to irritate what few allies we have – for stupid reasons.
    But in any case – great pix of the parade. Great parrot float. Looks like fun – and a nice way to end the holiday season.
    Three Kings Day is celebrated around here (especially in the Latino/Hispanic/Lousiana-French heritage/ Catholic neighborhoods) – it used to be many would not take down Christmas trees until then. There are pastries – but no parades. (just as well – it’s still raining – will it never stop? Don’t complain, don’t complain…)

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    • While I don’t agree with the standard of reporting in our local paper, ie too many spelling errors and total copying of press releases without adding any follow-up or comments, at least the selection of news is reasonable. Gossip about celebs and sports stars haven’t yet made it to our front pages, or even inside.

      The trouble is much of the time, we’ll never get to know why people take decisions they do. You can read glowing reports of America’s role post WW2 with the Marshall Plan, yet my father said it was the worse thing that happened to the UK (I didn’t even know it extended to the rest of Europe). Too little knowledge, misinformation – leads to an ignorant population.

      I would imagine Three Kings would be celebrated in Hispanic/Catholic communities. And although my family was not Catholic, the tree went up mid-December (a week before Christmas usually) and stayed there until the morning of the 6th. I have to say I also kept to that when I had trees, not so much the putting up – that was as and when – but they certainly stayed there until the 6th or the Sunday before the 6th depending on work commitments.

      Sending you a few rays of sunshine and some blue sky from sunny Gib.

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  7. I liked the other Thatcher quote as well, reportedly in a conversation with President Ronnie as she was assembling the task force. “Why didn’t America just give Hawaii to the Japanese in 1941?” or words to that effect. You didn’t mention the role of the French, supplying Exocet missiles to Argentina. Just goes to show what NATO is worth when something the Americans aren’t interested is proposed.

    Talking of Americans, they are now saying its a mistake for the UK to even consider a referendum on continuing EU membership, as it would not be in the UK’s interest. I think they mean not in the USA’s interest, as with the UK out of the EU, they’d have to cosy up to French a bit more.

    I think the Spanish are more hypocritical than the Argentinians, given that they have Ceuta and Melilla which are physically part of Morocco. I believe there is a planned referendum in the Falkland Islands this Spring, I feel confident at least 90% of the people will vote to stay British. I’m not sure you can really accuse the British of being overtly colonial given that Scotland is getting a referendum on independence.

    Interestingly this hostility is going to hit Argentina in the pocket, a number of cruise lines have announced that their ships won’t be docking at any Argentine ports in 2013 as they are more interested in visiting The Falklands than there.

    We always took the decorations down on 12th night, Jan 6th. I was never really aware that that was also the date the 3 Kings rocked up with presents. Have to say that, apart from cards, no Xmas decorations have ever gone up in any property I’ve owned.

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    • I’ve not heard that one about Hawaii. Class.

      I didn’t mention the French. There was only so much I could write in the post, although I did refer to Exocet in a comment to Andrew. The French involvement merits a post on its own – perhaps near the time of the referendum? I think it is March actually.

      I commented on someone else’s blog about EU membership. But really, who gives a shit what another country thinks about our decisions? To put it bluntly.

      Ceuta, Melilla, Isla de Perejil, the Spanish territorial waters – they are having a laugh. Me, I’d be going for gunboat diplomacy every time.

      Independence in Scotland will hit them in the health care pocket. They’ve always had a higher per capita funding than England. Plus there is, or was, quite a lot of cross borders transactions.

      There is obviously an independence mood floating around with all the instability and discontent. When I was a kid, people talked about Yorkshire being independent. Not that stupid in a way, as plenty of resources – and – at the time, industry too.

      I don’t see any problem with Scottish independence but think if that happens, there should be some common ties.

      Cruise ships? Spanish ports at one point banned ones visiting Gib from visiting Spain :(

      I did trees, and those swag things. Think I still have those. Somewhere!

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  8. Fascinating stuff. I learned a lot, not just from the original post but from the interchanges below, too. I tend to find I have difficulty warming to countries generally, the USA being an example, but finding many individuals from those countries wonderful people. Argentina demonstrated that last month. I can not believe the Falklanders will vote other than to retain the status quo. And that should be the end of it.

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    • I learned a lot too from just researching and writing that post, and I have some interesting regular readers who always have different but informative perceptions.

      I think the American culture is a hard one for any non-US person to get their head around. Certainly me, but as you say, we know great individuals and I read some great American blogs, and they also comment on here. Strange.

      Like Gib, I agree with you, I can’t imagine the Falklands doing anything else. But Gib has voted twice, overwhelmingly ie 99.9% to remain Spanish – does that stop Spain claiming Gib? Will it stop Argentina? I’ll be down to Ladbrokes to lay bets on Kirchner claiming the Falklands the day after the referendum.

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  9. I must admit although I’m familiar with The Falklands War I had to Wiki it to give me dates, in order to place myself…hhmmm I was age 16/17 and current affairs wasn’t on my agenda, and too often I still struggle to absorb the detail especially if it’s not in my immediate backyard, interests or detriment. It’s incredible how long political machinations endure. I wonder if history, now that information is more immediate, will be as fluid/obscured as it seems to be pre-internet/www age.
    Given my love of shiny and colourful, the Three Kings parade caught my eye – your images as well are spectacular especially the winner, the stunning bird. I like that the parade has a heritage which continues.

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    • Dates were easy for me, with being that bit older (well quite a bit :D) and placing it to my first newspaper job. Same with the UK miners’ strike. I think peoples’ knowledge of history is certainly deteriorating.

      I loved that bird. It was spectacular. But so was the RAF flyer of a different type on my header.

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  10. I’ve gone around the block a time or two and ended up with a parrot :) That’s about my level, Rough. I’m not much for the grand debate but your comments boxes are always interesting.

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    • I liked the parrot, goodness knows how long it took to create. Suitable image for a post with a debate eh? I’m lucky with my commenters, they are a smart bunch with some interesting opinions and they take time to leave some pretty detailed responses, sometimes including links. Horses for courses really. Different styles of blogs attract more, or less, comments and different types of comments. Because most of my posts are serious/news-related plus a totally personal slant thrown in, they are probably more likely to attract debate. Or maybe it’s just fluke. Who knows. Not me.

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